god is not a peacemaker. why did the christians adopt the ot god of jealousy, hate, revenge, unforgiving, while christ taught again and again the value of peace, love and forgiveness? in my opinion, this gap has created a rift in the christian psyche and culture that cannot be mended by singing "amazing grace" and lighting some candles, while belting out "onward christian soldiers." below i have addressed the ot god--who must be the basis for the horrific wars perpetuated by the christians--two world wars among themselves--and the arrogant tenant that christians are chosen and special.

following are comments i posted on a news feed on the internet in oct. 2006


 

bush says he talks to god and gets answers �. it is very likely to be true�seems to me his actions are right in sync with god himself.

god likes to take others' possessions :

the god who ordered the rest of us: �thou shalt not steal,� also ordered the israelites to steal from the egyptians and the people of jericho .

and the children of israel did according to the word of moses; they �borrowed� of the egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and the lord gave the people favor in the sight of the egyptians, so that they lent unto them such things as they required. and they spoiled the egyptians. exodus 12:35-36

all the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the lord and must go into his treasury."

joshua 6:19

sound like anyone we know?

god likes a good fight�for example, in egypt and in jericho :

when god ordered �thou shalt not kill,� it is clear it did not apply to him or his people.

and moses and aaron did all these wonders before pharaoh: and the lord hardened pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of israel out of his land�.and it came to past, that at midnight the lord smote all the first born in the land of egypt�. exodus 11:10 & 29

they [israelites] devoted the city [ jericho ] to the lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it�men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. joshua 6:21

if god was so great why didn't he create a paradise right where the israelites were�why resort to killing and stealing?

he countenances not only mass killing of war, but killings of individuals:

[after it was proved that yahweh was more powerful than baal]. then elijah commanded them, "seize the prophets of baal. don't let anyone get away!" they seized them, and elijah had them brought down to the kishon valley and slaughtered there. i kings 18:40

then god said, "take your son, your only son, whom you love�isaac�and go to the region of moriah. sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain i will show you." genesis 22:2

the question arises: if god is so powerful and created it all, why does he have to kill and steal to get what he wants�and take the best for himself??

why don't we know these things? because 95% of us never read the bible�and the other 5% are making a nice profit dependent on the fact we keep ourselves in ignorance and refuse to inform ourselves and make some sane decisions about life and gods. yes, gods, the ancients (including the jews) said there were some 73 gods, who were all fighting for supremacy.  i think we can assume that the christians' need for one god had some political or economic ramifications? everything else does. humanity is not going to move forward to a peaceful coexistence until we acknowledge our capacity for stupidity, leave it behind, and create a new reason for existence out of our own experience and understanding�other than illusion.

it's clear what �stay the course� means if one refers to bush's mentor and advisor�jehovah himself. he had promised the israelites a �promised land� but instead of creating one he gave them canaan . so joshua �fit the battle of jericho � and �stayed the course.�

they [israelites] devoted the city [ jericho ] to the lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it�men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. joshua 6:21

so jehovah likes a good fight�and not necessarily a fair one. what a mentor!

traditionally, the catholic church was an avid progenitor of war. erasmus wrote a "satire" of the day that pope, julius ii confronted satint peter at the gates of heaven. peter told ex-pope julius ii in julius exclusus:

oh, madman! so far i have heard nothing but the words of a warlord, not a churchman but a worlding, not a mere worlding but a pagan, and a scoundrel lower than any pagan! your boast of having dissolved treaties, stirred up wars, and encouraged the slaughter of men. that is the power of satan, not a pope. anyone who becomes the vicar of christ should try to follow as closely as possible the example provided by christ. in him the ultimate power coincided with ultimate goodness; his wisdom was supreme, but of the utmost simplicity. in you i see an image of power joined with the ultimate malice and the ultimate in stupidity. if the devil, that prince of darkness, wanted in send to eath a vicar of hell, whom would be choose but someone like you? in what way did you ever act like an apostolic person?

 

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